When we first started talking about swinging as more than just a fun fantasy to talk about during sex we talked about the rules that we both wanted and what we wanted out of exploring swinging. The rules was actually an easy thing to agree on; we were both cautious of not going too far and of making sure that we were both comfortable. Most of the rules that we started with quickly went out the window after a few experiences though. What took some more conversations was how we would find other couples and whether we wanted to get to know them well before things got sexual, or whether we just wanted to jump into bed with an attractive couple. That is taking things a little more to the extremes than we talked about, but I wanted to illustrate the difference here.

Initially we decided it would be best to find people that could be friends; people we enjoyed spending time with whether we were having sex or not. We placed our hopes that we could find a couple that would become great friends with us. As we met more and more couples and went through that whole friendship cycle we came to the conclusion that trying to force a friendship was not the right thing to do. We’d find couples we found attractive and had fun with then try to make them ‘friends’ rather than just let things progress however they progressed. We also sought out people who were also interested in making friends which seemed to lead to some of our less than successful experiences.

At some point we sat down and talked about what was important to us and what we wanted out of swinging. We came to the realization that we thought we needed to be friends with a couple that we met for sex. Some kind of a rationalization left over from being single and dating I suppose; you’re supposed to have a connection with people you’re having sex with. We decided that it was ok to meet a couple purely for sex and that it was ok if we never developed any kind of friendship with them. As long as they were fun to be around when we are with them and we find them sexually attractive then we are happy to escalate things with them towards a sexual encounter.

Anyone else gone through a similar path? In talking to some other swingers, both in person and online, it seems to be a common progression.

Wow, have I ever been slack! Last post was in July and I left it hanging? Man I am a jerk😉
So the last post left off that we had a great time after realizing that some good friends of ours were interested in swinging.

After we had our wild night we all got together for a coffee the next day to talk about what had happened. It was a little strained, but we got it out in the open that we were into it and they seemed quite open that they were excited about the prospect of swinging, and of swinging with us specifically. After a few days we all got together for dinner and just had a normal friends type dinner night, though we did stay a bit later than normal and drank a bit more than normal. I think we were all kind of hoping that something would happen, though none of us wanted to be the one that escalated it after agreeing that a friendly dinner would be a good idea. Dinner was very strained at first as we were all trying to get used to the new dynamic or how things would work, how much flirting was appropriate etc. Did I already say that?

I got a few txts from Dave that week and we planned another night where we’d all get together and have some sexual fun again. Dave went off to talk to Jill and I talked to Katrina and we set things up. I texted Jill a few times (I’ve always texted her, even long before this), but she wasn’t so responsive. I figured her very busy and stressful job was just getting in the way there as it has in the past. Our night out came up and we got together for some dinner, drinks and let things lead where they would go. Jill had a lot of wine and kept topping up Katrinas glass as well so the two of them were very tipsy. Actually, Katrina was tipsy, but Jill was drunk. After dinner and some flirting the girls did a striptease together that became quite a hilarious activity since Jill was drunk and Katrina is a klutz when shes sober. The strip tease escalated to the girls kissing, the girls, caressing and very quickly became the girls having sex together. A hot site that I can’t stay uninvolved with for very long!

So Dave and I stripped down and joined in, but after the girls both had a great orgasm Jill went off to the bathroom and dragged Katrina with her. We could hear them in there plotting together to come back in and give the both of us a blowjob and how far they would take it. When they came back in Jill went to Dave and a surprised Katrina (who thought she was going to give Dave a blowjob based on what Jill had only seconds before suggested) came and gave me a fantastic blowjob. Things continued to escalate, though we stuck with our own partners. While having sex with Katrina we could see Jill whispering in Daves ear; not a big deal really as I like to talk dirty to Katrina as well and often whisper into her ear for added effect, but something about the situation just didn’t feel right. At one point we heard her whispering that all she wanted was him to herself…………ok then!

So things just continued to get more uncomfortable for Katrina and I and we weren’t really sure what to do. We suggested flat out that maybe it was best to just call it a night, but they both empatically said that they wanted to stay and have fun. It was obvious that wasn’t the case though. We stumbled through some awkwardness there and were thankful to finally see them go.

During the next week Jill continued to avoid my texts, Dave kept insisting that Jill totally wanted to keep swinging and that we had nothing to feel awkward or concerned about and when Katrina would try to talk to Jill she’d only respond if it was normal stuff. Any flirting or direct conversation about what happened on the weekend or swinging was just flatly ignored.

Quite obvious something wasn’t right and neither one of them were being honest with us!

Katrina and I talked mid-week and decided that even if Jill called and wanted to setup another swinging date that we weren’t interested. We told them both that we just didn’t feel comfortable and would prefer to just remain friends. They were still in denial about it, but we just avoided seeing them for a few weeks and made sure that when we did hang out again it was friends only and we left before anything more could happen. We were both disappointed, but not really that it didn’t work out with them, rather disappointed that they didn’t seem able to talk openly and honestly about anything. Maybe two months after this we got a call from Jill that she had broken up with Dave and got a much more honest insight from her into why things had gotten weird, although Dave refutes them. We still have no idea what the reality of the situation was, but we’re glad we avoided getting any further emotionally involved in a sexual relationship with them as their relationship was ending!
Thankfully we’ve had great experiences since then🙂

When we started this journey of exploring swinging we talked about how we were going to find couples to swing with. There was a lot of discussion between Katrina and I over a long period of time. She wanted it to be an organic kind of experience where it “just happened” and wanted it to be with people we already knew and she was comfortable with. I preferred to find people we didn’t know yet so we could build a friendship with them that started with swinging. I knew how to find those people (the internet; sites like Adult Friend Finder and Swing Lifestyle), but broaching that kind of subject with our friends, well that I just didn’t know how to do.

One night we were out at a party, hanging out by the pool in our friends backyard. We’re over there for a BBQ and pool party with a bunch of our friends, everyone is having a great time; good food, some drinks and girls in bikinis. How can you go wrong? The hosts of the party are close friends of ours, in fact she is possibly Katrinas best friend. They’ve known each other for over 10 years and always have a great time hanging out together. Since they are our very good friends we stuck around until the end of the party, lazing around on the loungers by the pool chatting and relaxing, then helping them clean up a bit. At some point as we’re talking about the party someone made a joke about swinging (they have a playground nearby) and that sparked a bunch of jokes about our next party turning into a swinging party, one of those ‘fishbowl-key-parties’ and a bunch of other jokes.

Well once those jokes started, Katrina and I were stealing naughty looks at each other since we had that dirty little secret about how we had been swinging. It was an exciting few minutes for us and we laughed about it a lot when we finally left and headed home. It was one of those “if they only knew” kind of moments. Except, when the jokes were happening and Katrina and I were stealing naughty glances at each other I could have sworn I saw our friends stealing naughty glances at each other too. I dismissed it though, figuring that I was just transferring my own naughty frame of mind onto them.

Boy was I way off!

A few months later, we get a call from them late one night wondering what we were up to. They had gone home early from a party they were at and we were on our way home from a night out as well so we redirected ourselves and dropped by their place to hang out for a bit and have a few more drinks. As soon as we walked in the door I felt a strange vibe, but it was kind of late and we’d all had a few drinks so I dismissed it again. I really need to stop doing that! After we got ourselves a drink (mine is Rye and Coke, Katrinas is Gin and Tonic) we all sat down in the living room to chill. Katrina and Jill on the couch, Dave on the loveseat and me in the chair. We chat for about 5 minutes, then in a lull in the conversation Jill locks eyes with Katrina, leans in and kisses her. A long, soft kiss.

What?!

Here they are, friends for 10 years. They’d never kissed, never indicated any interest in kissing to each other, never mentioned they were interested in girls at all to each other, yet here they were kissing. Right in front of my eyes. Once they stopped kissing (it felt like a long time, but it was just a nice, soft normally long kiss) the room was silent again. That nervous, awkward excitement kind of quiet. Finally I broke the silence with the ever so smooth “Wow, that was incredibly hot!”

I know, I am fucking awesome. How the hell did I ever manage to get Katrina in the first place with that kind of drivel pouring out of my mouth?!

Anyway, it made everyone laugh so I guess it wasn’t all bad. Broke the tension and Katrina asked Jill where that had come from. Dave piped in there saying that Jill had been talking and fantasizing about Katrina for at least a year. Jill and Dave had started talking about swinging, threesomes and all of that; as soon as they started talking about it Katrina was the girl Jill admitted to being attracted to and lusting about. I can’t blame her, Katrina has incredibly sexy curves and is one of those people who has a very natural sexuality to her. Both girls were blushing and neither really knew what to do. So again I asserted my awesome smoothness with the gem: “I want to see you two kiss again”. Once again everyone laughed, but the girls took that as persmission to have a serious makeout session. I may have only said I wanted to see them kiss, but it was pure passionate kissing and that passion only kept building. As they were kissing clothes started to be pulled off, they started exploring each others bodies and before long these two best friends were naked on the couch in a 69.

Wow, again. When I had started my night we were on our way out to have dinner and a couple of drinks with some colleagues from my work. I never even considered I would be seeing Katrina enjoying the touch of another woman, and I certainly never imagined that it would be her best friend. I have to admit I was excited to see Jill naked; in those 10 years of friendship I have seen her in a bikini countless times, but never naked. It was worth the wait. Dave and I sat back letting the two girls explore each other, letting them enjoy being with each other. In all honesty I think they forgot we were even there for a while! It was incredibly hot and I was having a very hard time not ripping my clothes off and fucking one of them. It was too soon for that though, we had never even discussed any of those with them before! So we let them continue and once they had both had an orgasm they sat back on the couch and giggled like schoolgirls.

Dave and I got them a drink of water and while we were doing that they chatted, giggled and looked like they were hatching an evil plan. My kind of evil plan. After taking a long drink they had barely put their glasses of water down on the table before they launched at Dave and I; Katrina rapidly stripped off Daves shirt, unbuckled his belt and had his jeans around his ankles before he even had a chance to grasp what was going on. As soon as she took his cock in her mouth though his whole expression changed and he had just about the biggest grin I have ever seen him have. Jill and I took a bit more time and we both watched Katrina and Dave a bit, enjoying the sights and sounds of lust nearby, but we quickly followed suit. I stripped down with Jills help (and insistence) then I lay her down on the floor and went down on her. The rest of the night was spent with the four of us exploring each other with lots of foreplay, but no swapped sex. We stuck to soft swap and Dave and I ended up fucking our own girl while the two of them were 69’ing again (I just had to set that up after lusting about it when they first started just the two of them!)

Wow, again!!

We trundled off home around 5am, exhausted, tipsy and totally giddy! After sleeping in and grabbing some breakfast we called them up and were eager to chat. We’d spent a lot of time fucking, but not much time talking lol. So we invited them over for some coffee and we all sat down to chat about what had happened, where we were all at with it, what everyone thought etc. It turns out that they had about as much swinging experience that we had. They’d even gone to the same swingers club that we had, but somehow we had never gone on the same night (we’ve only been a few times so its not that surprising). I was laughing a lot because it is just too bizarre that we all started doing this around the same time and had been keeping it a secret from each other for so long. We kept our clothes on for the coffee chat and a few hours later they headed home and we wandered to the bedroom to fuck again.

We met them a few more times after that first night for some sexual hi -inx, but unfortunately things didn’t turn out as rosy as it seemed they would at the start. The girls quickly started planning vacations, weekends away and all sorts of stuff; after 2 more swinging dates though it was obvious that this just wasn’t going to work. Some issues between Dave and Jill surfaced and we backed things off preferring to keep our long friendship.

I’ll explain how that all went down in another post!

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In our last post we described our encounter with meeting another couple, but we left it hanging a little bit since the post had gotten a little long. At the end of the last post we had spent a great night having drinks with another couple and ended the night with some kissing and a bit of intimate moments between the girls. All in all a great night and everyone got along great.

After that night we continued to talk frequently with them online having a great time getting to know each other a lot better. We all continued to be very busy so it was at least 2 or 3 weeks before we could arrange to have a night out together, but we made the plans and kept chatting frequently. Finally the 3 weeks had passed with probably too much chatting going on, but our night out finally arrived and we all met at the restaurant that we’d chosen and settled into a very secluded and intimate booth for a great dinner. There was some awkward moments at the beginning of dinner, but we all settled into some fun flirting and enjoyed the dinner and a few drinks. Dinner passed very quickly and we all decided to head back to our place, which was near-by, to have some dessert…..and the maybe some real dessert😉

Once back at our place there was a bit of awkwardness again with none of us really knowing how to get the sexual things started. With the first couple it was a lot easier because we were at the swingers club and since everyone had to get naked when we went upstairs moving to sex was a lot easier. This time we all unsure of how to do it, so I finally broke the ice by saying that I thought the two girls looked very sexy when they had been kissing and they should do it again. That was all the kick they needed and the two girls started things off marvelously. As things progressed with clothes coming off and the girls getting more and more into each other they suddenly woke up from their little world that included just the two of them, had a quiet little conference between them and jumped up to come across to the guys. Katrina when to him, and Sara came to me; things started with kissing, but the girls quickly started ripping our clothes off and got busy making sure we didn’t feel left out at all.

Now that we were all involved things started moving rapidly; once I was naked too and Sara had spent some time getting to know my naked body I picked her up, laid her down and explored her as well. As her orgasm was building I looked up to see Tom and Katrina in the same position we were in and a happy look on her face. Once we had brought both girls to orgasm we moved things to the bedroom and kept up the fun with the girls each enjoying three of us making them cum and both girls ensuring that the guys got a blowjob from both of them at the same time (one of my favourite moments so far actually). After making Sara cum once again it was time to take that leap and Katrina asked Sara if she wanted to fuck me.

So with Sara crawling over to me with a lustful look on her face Katrina and Tom started to kiss and get a condom out for their own fun. I took a minute to kiss Sara and soak the moment in, but she seemed to not be really into what I was doing. It was a bit strange as she had been very receptive all night, but I figured maybe I was just taking too long and she was ready to have sex and frustrated. So as I was getting a condom and putting it on, I looked down to Sara with her eyes closed and a hand on her pussy. Thinking back I probably should have recognized the signs of what was up, but in the moment I thought she was playing with herself…..I couldn’t have been more wrong. I get the condom on and move between her legs, as soon as I do that she starts talking to me about how hot I was and how she was ready. That was all the signs I needed and I started to put it inside her, but after a few strokes she pushed me away and jumped off the bed running into the washroom down the hall (not even the en-suite washroom!). Katrina and Tom were busy, but I interrupted to let them know I was pretty sure something was wrong with Sara and perhaps Tom wanted to go check on her.

Doh! So, here we are, three naked people hanging around the washroom door and it’s Katrina and I knocking and checking on Sara with Tom hanging around saying she was probably ok. Not a shining moment for him as a boyfriend. She responds tearily that she wasn’t ok and we all but shove Tom in the damn door to talk to her as Katrina and I go to get dressed. I’m freaked out thinking I did something to upset her, Katrina is freaked out thinking she did something wrong and is also upset because Tom was having trouble getting hard and she was very self conscious about it (thoughts of whether he found her attractive, was she not good enough in bed etc.) All in all, just a lot of bad thoughts going around. When Sara finally emerged from the bathroom, got dressed and cleaned up a bit she admitted that seeing Tom and Katrina having ‘sex’ had freaked her out. They hung out for a bit to talk about it, but holy crap was it ever an awkward situation. I don’t think it actually made anyone feel better and I think all it did was extend an already awkward night a little longer! I was glad to see them take off, in part because Sara seemed a bit better, but in part because I wanted to talk with Katrina alone and give ourselves a chance to decompress about the whole situation.

It freaked us both out and really upset Katrina. It was the first time we’d had anyone to our house and was with a couple that we thought we could develop a great friendship with. Neither one of us really wanted to screw up what had been becoming a potentially great friendship and we definitely never wanted to make anyone that upset with any of this! We are all about having fun, this is an extension of an already fun and exciting life that is meant to enhance it!

What I was very disappointed about was that we had all talked before doing anything and agreed that if any one of us was uncomfortable with anything that was going on we just had to say the word and we’d all stop and go back to what we were all comfortable with. All she had to do at anytime was say she wasn’t ready for it and none of us would have cared. For whatever reason she didn’t though, and it actually took Katrina a while to get over it. We have agreed to not have anyone to our house for any swinging activities anytime soon though.

What has happened since? We’ve kept in contact with them and went for drinks again a few days later to try and get things on the table and cleared up. I’m not sure it helped really as all Katrina can picture when she thinks about it is the image of Sara crying and running out of the room. We’ve tried to remain friends and continue building that friendship, but it hasn’t been an easy thing to do. Bottom line though is that there won’t be anymore swinging with Sara and Tom, any ongoing relationship with them will be strictly friends.

Thankfully, so far this has been our only real bad experience! Hopefully it remains our lone bad experience lol

After our first swinging experience went well both Katrina and I were excited to try it again. Since the couple we met that first time had decided to stop swinging (issues between them), we were back looking for the right couple again. It’s not an easy thing to find the right people, but we were contacted online almost immediately after logging in by a very nice sounding young couple. They seemed to be on the same page as we were, looking for the same things and we had some fun banter going on back and forth online. Contrary to the first time that we had met someone (where we talked briefly online then met in person) we talked to this couple for weeks and weeks before we actually were able to meet them.

Although we were all ready to meet shortly after starting to talk to them we just weren’t able to make it happen for one reason or another (all 4 of us have very busy lives with work and play) so it took almost 3 weeks before we were able to find a time we could all go out. We arranged to meet for a few drinks on a Friday night at a fun and sexy bar downtown; the bar has a very sexually tinged overtone to everything about the place, so we thought it was the perfect place to meet another couple for some drinks! Over the few weeks between meeting them online and finally meeting them in person we talked to them often on IM and had a great time chatting with them, getting to know them better and really started to build a friendship with them. Very exciting prospect for us because we really wanted to find a couple we could build a friendship with as well as have a lot of wild sex with!

Finally the night to have some drinks came; home from work to clean up and change to more casual and fun outfits then off to meet them for a drink. As usual Katrina and I are running behind so we call them to apologize and let them know when we would be there. We walk in the door and see them immediately, sitting at a table near the front door, but it’s a bit too exposed so we suggest moving to a spot further near the back of the place so we can talk a bit more privately and relax! Before meeting we had all agreed that we would just meet for drinks and nothing more, take things slow and let us all get comfortable, but that didn’t help stop making the first little while awkward and a bit uncomfortable! It took a drink or two for everyone to relax a bit and we were able to chat a lot easier. We spent a few hours getting to know each other in the chilled and sexy atmosphere and as time went on we started flirting more and more. I was having fun flirting with Sara (I haven’t given these guys names, so I will call them Sara and Tom), but Katrina was struggling to flirt with Tom as he seemed a bit more shy about the situation. Sara kept checking Katrina out and it was obvious that she wanted to flirt with her as well, but just wasn’t sure how to start it off….a pretty cute thing to see and endeared her to me even more.

After hours of flirting, a few more drinks and some casual touching (I had my hand on Saras’ knee/leg for a while) there was a fair bit of tension since the night was coming to an end, but we had all agreed that nothing would happen. That sexual tension was cut by Sara making eye contact with me, then making eye contact with Katrina and giving her a long, deep and intense kiss. The two girls sat there in our secluded booth kissing and letting their hands roam for at least 10 minutes, which was a fun sight to see, but to be completely honest got a bit old for me since I am far more interested in being involved in the action than just sitting back and purely watching it. That was ok though, I was happy to let them explore a bit since being with another woman was still very new to them. The bar was closing though so we all gathered our stuff up and went back to our car; Sara and Tom had taken the subway down so we agreed to drive them home rather than subject them to a late night subway ride. Once in the car the two girls in the backseat started back where they left off in the club, only they took it a lot further than just kissing. With the semi-privacy of the car they were kissing and pulling articles of clothes open and over the course of the 45 minute drive (it was a 30 minute drive, but I drove slow…it was hard to concentrate on the road) they escalated from kissing to going down on each other. After each girl had gotten off at least once we pulled up to their house (good timing!) and when we got out to say good night Sara asked if she could kiss me so I got a chance to make out with her for a few minutes before we got back in the car. Katrina and Tom took the hint and kissed as well, although he was a lot more shy about it, but they had a good kiss anyway.

So we had a great night with them, once again we went further than we intended to but we had a great time so we just went with it. The only unfortunate thing is that Sara is a very bad kisser! Both Katrina and I love to kiss and it’s a big turn on for Katrina to make out with a great kisser….but Sara was really not a good kisser at all. We had so much fun with them though and got along so well with them that we decided that wasn’t such a big deal and decided to make plans to meet them again, but this time somewhere private where we could all pick up where we left off!

It was another few weeks before we could meet them though (everyones busy lives getting in the way of naked fun!). Since this is already fairly long I will make our second meeting a separate post.

This was originally intended as a reply to a post on Mandy’s Erotic Life, but for some reason I don’t think the comment went through so I figured I’d make it a post here instead.

Mandy was bringing up the fact that she has never considered herself bi, but with the right girl she really loves to have sex with them. The same goes for Katrina; she doesn’t think of herself as bi, but has been with a number of women and definitely appreciates a sexy girls body. When she and I have discussed this she’s told me that she would never date a woman and she prefers sex with a man, but with the right girl she loves being able to kiss her, have sex with her, touch her….as long as there is a man there for them both to share. She doesn’t see herself enjoying sex with a girl when it’s just the two of them, but she was talking to me when bringing that up, so maybe it was just to save my poor fragile male ego😉

In any case, I find it interesting that both Mandy and Katrina have been sexual with other women, but don’t really consider themselves to be bi, or bi-curious. Although straight doesn’t fit the description either; maybe we need a new term!😉

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