When we first started talking about swinging as more than just a fun fantasy to talk about during sex we talked about the rules that we both wanted and what we wanted out of exploring swinging. The rules was actually an easy thing to agree on; we were both cautious of not going too far and of making sure that we were both comfortable. Most of the rules that we started with quickly went out the window after a few experiences though. What took some more conversations was how we would find other couples and whether we wanted to get to know them well before things got sexual, or whether we just wanted to jump into bed with an attractive couple. That is taking things a little more to the extremes than we talked about, but I wanted to illustrate the difference here.

Initially we decided it would be best to find people that could be friends; people we enjoyed spending time with whether we were having sex or not. We placed our hopes that we could find a couple that would become great friends with us. As we met more and more couples and went through that whole friendship cycle we came to the conclusion that trying to force a friendship was not the right thing to do. We’d find couples we found attractive and had fun with then try to make them ‘friends’ rather than just let things progress however they progressed. We also sought out people who were also interested in making friends which seemed to lead to some of our less than successful experiences.

At some point we sat down and talked about what was important to us and what we wanted out of swinging. We came to the realization that we thought we needed to be friends with a couple that we met for sex. Some kind of a rationalization left over from being single and dating I suppose; you’re supposed to have a connection with people you’re having sex with. We decided that it was ok to meet a couple purely for sex and that it was ok if we never developed any kind of friendship with them. As long as they were fun to be around when we are with them and we find them sexually attractive then we are happy to escalate things with them towards a sexual encounter.

Anyone else gone through a similar path? In talking to some other swingers, both in person and online, it seems to be a common progression.

Wow, have I ever been slack! Last post was in July and I left it hanging? Man I am a jerk 😉
So the last post left off that we had a great time after realizing that some good friends of ours were interested in swinging.

After we had our wild night we all got together for a coffee the next day to talk about what had happened. It was a little strained, but we got it out in the open that we were into it and they seemed quite open that they were excited about the prospect of swinging, and of swinging with us specifically. After a few days we all got together for dinner and just had a normal friends type dinner night, though we did stay a bit later than normal and drank a bit more than normal. I think we were all kind of hoping that something would happen, though none of us wanted to be the one that escalated it after agreeing that a friendly dinner would be a good idea. Dinner was very strained at first as we were all trying to get used to the new dynamic or how things would work, how much flirting was appropriate etc. Did I already say that?

I got a few txts from Dave that week and we planned another night where we’d all get together and have some sexual fun again. Dave went off to talk to Jill and I talked to Katrina and we set things up. I texted Jill a few times (I’ve always texted her, even long before this), but she wasn’t so responsive. I figured her very busy and stressful job was just getting in the way there as it has in the past. Our night out came up and we got together for some dinner, drinks and let things lead where they would go. Jill had a lot of wine and kept topping up Katrinas glass as well so the two of them were very tipsy. Actually, Katrina was tipsy, but Jill was drunk. After dinner and some flirting the girls did a striptease together that became quite a hilarious activity since Jill was drunk and Katrina is a klutz when shes sober. The strip tease escalated to the girls kissing, the girls, caressing and very quickly became the girls having sex together. A hot site that I can’t stay uninvolved with for very long!

So Dave and I stripped down and joined in, but after the girls both had a great orgasm Jill went off to the bathroom and dragged Katrina with her. We could hear them in there plotting together to come back in and give the both of us a blowjob and how far they would take it. When they came back in Jill went to Dave and a surprised Katrina (who thought she was going to give Dave a blowjob based on what Jill had only seconds before suggested) came and gave me a fantastic blowjob. Things continued to escalate, though we stuck with our own partners. While having sex with Katrina we could see Jill whispering in Daves ear; not a big deal really as I like to talk dirty to Katrina as well and often whisper into her ear for added effect, but something about the situation just didn’t feel right. At one point we heard her whispering that all she wanted was him to herself…………ok then!

So things just continued to get more uncomfortable for Katrina and I and we weren’t really sure what to do. We suggested flat out that maybe it was best to just call it a night, but they both empatically said that they wanted to stay and have fun. It was obvious that wasn’t the case though. We stumbled through some awkwardness there and were thankful to finally see them go.

During the next week Jill continued to avoid my texts, Dave kept insisting that Jill totally wanted to keep swinging and that we had nothing to feel awkward or concerned about and when Katrina would try to talk to Jill she’d only respond if it was normal stuff. Any flirting or direct conversation about what happened on the weekend or swinging was just flatly ignored.

Quite obvious something wasn’t right and neither one of them were being honest with us!

Katrina and I talked mid-week and decided that even if Jill called and wanted to setup another swinging date that we weren’t interested. We told them both that we just didn’t feel comfortable and would prefer to just remain friends. They were still in denial about it, but we just avoided seeing them for a few weeks and made sure that when we did hang out again it was friends only and we left before anything more could happen. We were both disappointed, but not really that it didn’t work out with them, rather disappointed that they didn’t seem able to talk openly and honestly about anything. Maybe two months after this we got a call from Jill that she had broken up with Dave and got a much more honest insight from her into why things had gotten weird, although Dave refutes them. We still have no idea what the reality of the situation was, but we’re glad we avoided getting any further emotionally involved in a sexual relationship with them as their relationship was ending!
Thankfully we’ve had great experiences since then 🙂

When we started this journey of exploring swinging we talked about how we were going to find couples to swing with. There was a lot of discussion between Katrina and I over a long period of time. She wanted it to be an organic kind of experience where it “just happened” and wanted it to be with people we already knew and she was comfortable with. I preferred to find people we didn’t know yet so we could build a friendship with them that started with swinging. I knew how to find those people (the internet; sites like Adult Friend Finder and Swing Lifestyle), but broaching that kind of subject with our friends, well that I just didn’t know how to do.

One night we were out at a party, hanging out by the pool in our friends backyard. We’re over there for a BBQ and pool party with a bunch of our friends, everyone is having a great time; good food, some drinks and girls in bikinis. How can you go wrong? The hosts of the party are close friends of ours, in fact she is possibly Katrinas best friend. They’ve known each other for over 10 years and always have a great time hanging out together. Since they are our very good friends we stuck around until the end of the party, lazing around on the loungers by the pool chatting and relaxing, then helping them clean up a bit. At some point as we’re talking about the party someone made a joke about swinging (they have a playground nearby) and that sparked a bunch of jokes about our next party turning into a swinging party, one of those ‘fishbowl-key-parties’ and a bunch of other jokes.

Well once those jokes started, Katrina and I were stealing naughty looks at each other since we had that dirty little secret about how we had been swinging. It was an exciting few minutes for us and we laughed about it a lot when we finally left and headed home. It was one of those “if they only knew” kind of moments. Except, when the jokes were happening and Katrina and I were stealing naughty glances at each other I could have sworn I saw our friends stealing naughty glances at each other too. I dismissed it though, figuring that I was just transferring my own naughty frame of mind onto them.

Boy was I way off!

A few months later, we get a call from them late one night wondering what we were up to. They had gone home early from a party they were at and we were on our way home from a night out as well so we redirected ourselves and dropped by their place to hang out for a bit and have a few more drinks. As soon as we walked in the door I felt a strange vibe, but it was kind of late and we’d all had a few drinks so I dismissed it again. I really need to stop doing that! After we got ourselves a drink (mine is Rye and Coke, Katrinas is Gin and Tonic) we all sat down in the living room to chill. Katrina and Jill on the couch, Dave on the loveseat and me in the chair. We chat for about 5 minutes, then in a lull in the conversation Jill locks eyes with Katrina, leans in and kisses her. A long, soft kiss.


Here they are, friends for 10 years. They’d never kissed, never indicated any interest in kissing to each other, never mentioned they were interested in girls at all to each other, yet here they were kissing. Right in front of my eyes. Once they stopped kissing (it felt like a long time, but it was just a nice, soft normally long kiss) the room was silent again. That nervous, awkward excitement kind of quiet. Finally I broke the silence with the ever so smooth “Wow, that was incredibly hot!”

I know, I am fucking awesome. How the hell did I ever manage to get Katrina in the first place with that kind of drivel pouring out of my mouth?!

Anyway, it made everyone laugh so I guess it wasn’t all bad. Broke the tension and Katrina asked Jill where that had come from. Dave piped in there saying that Jill had been talking and fantasizing about Katrina for at least a year. Jill and Dave had started talking about swinging, threesomes and all of that; as soon as they started talking about it Katrina was the girl Jill admitted to being attracted to and lusting about. I can’t blame her, Katrina has incredibly sexy curves and is one of those people who has a very natural sexuality to her. Both girls were blushing and neither really knew what to do. So again I asserted my awesome smoothness with the gem: “I want to see you two kiss again”. Once again everyone laughed, but the girls took that as persmission to have a serious makeout session. I may have only said I wanted to see them kiss, but it was pure passionate kissing and that passion only kept building. As they were kissing clothes started to be pulled off, they started exploring each others bodies and before long these two best friends were naked on the couch in a 69.

Wow, again. When I had started my night we were on our way out to have dinner and a couple of drinks with some colleagues from my work. I never even considered I would be seeing Katrina enjoying the touch of another woman, and I certainly never imagined that it would be her best friend. I have to admit I was excited to see Jill naked; in those 10 years of friendship I have seen her in a bikini countless times, but never naked. It was worth the wait. Dave and I sat back letting the two girls explore each other, letting them enjoy being with each other. In all honesty I think they forgot we were even there for a while! It was incredibly hot and I was having a very hard time not ripping my clothes off and fucking one of them. It was too soon for that though, we had never even discussed any of those with them before! So we let them continue and once they had both had an orgasm they sat back on the couch and giggled like schoolgirls.

Dave and I got them a drink of water and while we were doing that they chatted, giggled and looked like they were hatching an evil plan. My kind of evil plan. After taking a long drink they had barely put their glasses of water down on the table before they launched at Dave and I; Katrina rapidly stripped off Daves shirt, unbuckled his belt and had his jeans around his ankles before he even had a chance to grasp what was going on. As soon as she took his cock in her mouth though his whole expression changed and he had just about the biggest grin I have ever seen him have. Jill and I took a bit more time and we both watched Katrina and Dave a bit, enjoying the sights and sounds of lust nearby, but we quickly followed suit. I stripped down with Jills help (and insistence) then I lay her down on the floor and went down on her. The rest of the night was spent with the four of us exploring each other with lots of foreplay, but no swapped sex. We stuck to soft swap and Dave and I ended up fucking our own girl while the two of them were 69’ing again (I just had to set that up after lusting about it when they first started just the two of them!)

Wow, again!!

We trundled off home around 5am, exhausted, tipsy and totally giddy! After sleeping in and grabbing some breakfast we called them up and were eager to chat. We’d spent a lot of time fucking, but not much time talking lol. So we invited them over for some coffee and we all sat down to chat about what had happened, where we were all at with it, what everyone thought etc. It turns out that they had about as much swinging experience that we had. They’d even gone to the same swingers club that we had, but somehow we had never gone on the same night (we’ve only been a few times so its not that surprising). I was laughing a lot because it is just too bizarre that we all started doing this around the same time and had been keeping it a secret from each other for so long. We kept our clothes on for the coffee chat and a few hours later they headed home and we wandered to the bedroom to fuck again.

We met them a few more times after that first night for some sexual hi -inx, but unfortunately things didn’t turn out as rosy as it seemed they would at the start. The girls quickly started planning vacations, weekends away and all sorts of stuff; after 2 more swinging dates though it was obvious that this just wasn’t going to work. Some issues between Dave and Jill surfaced and we backed things off preferring to keep our long friendship.

I’ll explain how that all went down in another post!